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Speaking at Sigma Pi Sigma

6/15/2024

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On April 18 of this year I was honored to join two other guest speakers for the induction of honorees to the Sigma Pi SIgma community in Physics. This was the third time I was invited to speak at this annual event held on the campus of St. John's University.

After several years where the event was not done in person due to COVID 19, I was happy to join the community to celebrate with the new inductees.

In the photo on the right, starting from left to right, I am standing with my fellow guest speakers. They are Sedariest Hammond, Addie Darrah, and myself.

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2024 Sigma Pi Sigma Honorees with the three guest speakers holding silver plaques.

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Bill Lauto speaking at the 2016 event

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In 2016 Special guest speakers of the event are shown in the photo above. I start on the left side; then Mr. Ken Armellino, P.E.; Dr. Stephen Schwartz from Brookhaven National Lab; and Mr. Damon Urso.

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Bill Lauto speaking at the 2015 event

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Bill Lauto, third from right, guest speaker at the 2015 event

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Why Do We Tie Up Our Garbage In Plastic Bags?

3/7/2024

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Beach Clean Up: Compostable Bags or Plastic?

Easy answer... To facilitate easy transportation from indoors to outdoors, and to keep garbage cans more sanitized.

Now I must ask, what was done in yesteryear? There was no such thing as a plastic bag.

In the "Old Days" garbage was tossed in a small pail with a handle, then carried outside to a large garbage can that was put out to the curb on collection days. Every now and then, those pails were washed out. However, plastic bags changed all that, so to avoid using plastic bags today, we need to look into Compostable Bags and taking some additional action.

Households were not zero waste back in yesteryear, nor is zero waste an easy task to accomplish today. First action is to reduce, recycle, and reuse. I put out one garbage can a week, while most of my neighbors with the same situation as me, put out two garbage cans twice a week. All with their garbage tied up nice and tight in a plastic bag. I am also guilty for using plastic bags, but that is mostly because the municipality and unions, do not want their collection agents picking up garbage cans filled with loose debris, and turning the cans upside down to dump out all that garbage. Spillage, when that occurs is a mess, germs can spread, and town / city employees risk back injuries. So most townships and cities want garbage to be bagged.

Nevertheless, still using plastic bags, will cause long term issues in landfills. One such issue I learned about on my first job out of college. I was working as a Specialist Level 2 environmental scientist at a newly designed garbage recycling plant. There I learned the plastic bags when burned, give off dioxins, and dioxin like compounds. That is the same stuff used in agent orange during the Vietnam war.

So another action I took was to search out Compostable Bags. There are many types available on the market today, and a lot easier to find compared to years ago. Try to buy compostable bags with plant-based content, and this will help keep plastic out of our landfills and microplastic particles out of our environment, and us!

Some compostable bags with good reviews are ProGreen, and UNNI ASTM. Both are available at Walmart.

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WHY DIGITAL ELECTRIC METERS?

12/13/2023

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Old Electric Meter

Nationwide utility companies have been changing their  “workhorse – never-fail” electric meters to digital ones.

Why? Two reasons: To prevent the loss of money and to save money.

Personally, I do not appreciate “money” being in the equation for reasons. Yet, money is the only reason for this change over. Why else would power companies change out American made, never-fail, electric meters to digital units made - where?

First fact was that too many people with very high electric bills blamed the meter instead of being accountable for their own consumption of power. I remember one energy audit I was doing for a homeowner who wanted me to provide proof that his electric “workhorse – never-fail” meter was defective and spinning faster to increase his electric bill. The year was 1988, there was no extra data on this homeowner collected through social media or Amazon purchases. None of that existed yet. Nevertheless, I was able to know from experience, and the story went pretty much like this:

            I arrived at the homeowner’s house, and parked as close to the curb as possible, despite the accumulated snow in the street. The homeowner met me on his driveway and after introductions, I followed him to the electric meter mounted on the outside of his house.

            “Excellent!” The homeowner exclaimed. “Look at that wheel on the meter spin! And there isn’t anything on inside. Not one lightbulb nor TV. I’m telling you, as these meters get old and worn out, the gears within spin faster.”

            “Actually, the opposite is true,” I politely said to inform the homeowner. “As dust and dirt build up inside the meter over the decades, the gears slow down, thus lowering your electric bill from what the real cost should be. If you demand the power company to change out this meter to a new one, they will be happy to do so, and your electric bill will increase. Not by much, but it will be higher. You said your house and meter were almost 40 years old, well the power company is losing money on you. Then add up all the old slow running meters out there and the power company is losing a small fortune.”

            The homeowner was ready to fire me on the spot as he stared at me in disbelief. “That can’t be true! Why is my meter spinning so fast when I’m not using any electricity inside?”

            “I would say from the speed of the spinning wheel on your meter that you have an inefficient refrigerator and freezer with side by side doors operation right now in your kitchen and an extra Box freezer also running in your basement.”

            The homeowner’s mouth dropped-open as his eyes widened, and then demanded, “how the hell do you know that? “You have never been inside my house!”

            Sure enough, both appliances existed as I described and confirmed in the locations I cited, when we entered the house. Additionally, both appliances were running. After they stopped, I brought the homeowner outside to see his meter turning slowly. He then asked me what was consuming electricity now to have the wheel still turn, even at a slow rate? I listed for him the following:

“Your clock on the kitchen stove.
The clock on your coffee maker.
The clock on your microwave oven.
Your alarm clock or clocks plugged into an outlet.
A possible nightlight left on.
The timer for your table lamp in the living room for security reasons.
Did you shut off your lawn sprinkler timer?
Each Television plugged into an outlet is drawing ‘stand-by’ power.
Most of your entertainment equipment will also pull some power for ‘stand-by’ power. Equipment such as your stereo and video game box.”
(Use this LINK to learn more about ‘stand-by’ power)

            “Additionally,” I said, “your heating system perhaps just came on, and the zone calling for heat activated the electric pump to send the heated water through your pipes and along your hot-water baseboards to heat that area of the house. Especially, since you had left the front door open since I arrived and only have the screen door closed.

Needless to say, I spent three more hours with that homeowner teaching him have to save without sacrificing.

So, with that loss of income for power companies and the second fact that they longed for saving all the salaries of meter readers. These two “money” reasons had the utilities look forward to digital meters. Meters that could be read by one person sitting in a car and reading every meter on the block electronically in a fraction of the time wirelessly.

As far as, the consumer, we are billed more accurately constantly and perhaps, depending on where the digital meter is located, such as outside a bedroom window with a bed by that window, a person may be exposed to extra electromagnetic fields? To know the truth about this and risks for young children, we need to search out studies published on this topic in peer reviewed scientific journals. Never trust what a politician says or a millionaire talking head on a cable or news channel network. They sensationalize to stay in office, sell more commercials, and make more money with higher ratings.

The moral to this blog is that we must be aware and accountable for our actions and consumption. We must stop blaming others or old dirt-filled electric meters. No one else is going to save you money and your health nor the world’s future for our children. All that is up to us and it starts in our own house or apartment.

Bill Lauto, at GoingTrueGreen.com
Environmental Scientist
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Page Through the History and Future of Alley Pond

11/28/2023

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My undergraduate professor, William Nieter, just published a book that embodies a necessary understanding of the connection between humans and nature. His book is titled: The Story of Alley Pond, past, present, and future.

Without hesitation he presents the fact that this relationship between humankind and nature, is his passion. The Introduction of his book immediately speaks of the contrast between natural and artificial with these words:

“This pond, born into a wilderness setting, witnessed the great rural to urban transition of the 19th and 20th centuries. It saw the first paved highways and the first automobiles replace forest trails and horse drawn wagons. It stood silent as the shadow of the city approached and then passed over the valley.”

Additionally, Nieter’s altruism is apparent as all profits from the sale of this book go to support the environmental education programs at the Alley Pond Environmental Center in Queens, New York. Please visit AMAZON to order his book.

I meet professor Nieter at Saint John’s University in my sophomore year after I joined the Environmental club. Since I was majoring in Environmental Studies, I was soon under his tutelage in his classes. I thoroughly enjoyed the field trips and challenges created by Professor Nieter. The importance for everyone to go on field trips and be outside, is vital. Especially in today’s world of Virtual Reality.

By the time I finished my senior year, I had taken field trips throughout the 655.3 acres of Alley Pond park and even explored the salt marches that added up to over a 1,000 acres of nature that was fighting to come back to life. The recovery of Alley Pond was truly seen in 1998 because of the leaders and volunteers at Alley Pond Environmental Center. I remember many visits to the Center that originally opened on November 14, 1976 at 228-06 Northern Boulevard, Little Neck, New York. The events and meetings always had a mission. Years later, I even found myself sitting on a 'discussion panel' at the Center during the PlaNYC 2030 event on April 30, 2009.

Every family in the New York City area should visit the Center with their children or grandchildren. For additional information about various events, please visit the Alley Pond Environmental Center’s Link at: ALLEY POND

As I read The Story of Alley Pond, I found myself taking a trip through time. The historical story starts with the Pond’s creation. The reader is propelled up to Colonial times, then, through Industrial and current times. Concluding with an all important look into the future. After reading this book, a walk through a park or a field trip to the woods, is definitely a requirement for everyone.

Bill Lauto, at GoingTrueGreen.com
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Treat! But There Is A Trick!

10/31/2023

Way back on May 12, 1989 I received a Report Card from the Power Company and I posted information that would be useful to others who wish to save Money, Energy and our Earth. The title is: Energy Savings At A Jedi Level.
(Link to visit this old blog)

I also wrote with an update on that blog: "My long term goal was to have no electric bill or energy bills at all. (No electric bill was accomplished in 2014 and still waiting in 2019 for an affordable NASA Fuel Cell that sent Americans to the moon several times and back to eliminate my natural gas consumption)"

Well, the wait may come to an end soon, but there is a trick involved...

Many companies have been working on Hydrogen Fuel Cells, but the various fluidity of production methods and logistics are very costly. Nevertheless, there have been breakthroughs, yet none remove our servitude to monthly bills. All the companies really don't want us making our own Hydrogen fuel, on site, and on demand, for cost savings and safety. These companies want to sell us the Hydrogen fuel, one way or another.

The World's Energy Freedom, as I have been writing about for decades, will only come when greed steps aside so we can have hydrogen fuel cells in our homes, cars, and business. The World's Energy Freedom answer would work with a system that collects FREE rain water (a vehicle will have a water tank) and as needed, the membrane component, will separate the hydrogen molecules from the freely collected rain water (not from natural gas or gasoline). This would be done with FREE electric power created from the Sun with a few solar panels. The hydrogen molecules from the freely collected water (H2O) will run the fuel cell that makes FREE electricity to power the house, office and our car. The byproduct is water. A small battery backup will suffice in place of the solar panels on cloudy days and nighttime in order to operate the membrane component that separates the two hydrogen molecules from the one oxygen molecule in water. The electricity made by the fuel cell will always be recharging the battery.

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What we have so far from NASA's technology is a company in Ohio called Hyperion announcing their methodology for hydrogen fuel cells that can be used at a business, home and of course, in their car. I am not going to critique the company, I will leave that to each one of my readers to do themselves.

The photo from Hyperion, shows their fuel cell in the upper right hand corner and Hyperion's sports car on the left. One of the Links to their website is as follows: Hyperion

Below is an image of their refueling station... And that is the monthly expense trick. The hydrogen is compressed, cooled, and stored within, so we can buy from them.

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No making our own hydrogen on demand, in which case there will be no need to compress, cool or store. I am afraid that technology will only come about when we all realize that: To Lead, One Must Serve.

Bill Lauto, at GoingTrueGreen.com
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FLASHBACK, 1981

4/25/2023

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Movie Poster for The Last Chase

Flashback to 1981 and a movie starring Lee Majors called The Last Chase taking place in the future year of 2011. This was a movie nobody believed that any aspect of the story plot would come true. Thus, the movie was not successful, so much so that the premier cable network at the time called HBO, ran the movie multiple times per day to fill in the time slots with the lowest numbers of viewers. HBO did run the movie in the premier movie night timeslot at first, then dropped the movie into the “filler” timeslots for the whole summer of 1982.

Before I venture more directly into this movie’s theme, let us first realize that the time slots that had low viewership back then was because most people went outside to socialize, do activities, invent, accomplish, and live. Today, dreaming and living, has been slowly dying on the living room sofa or in a worn out Sacco chair on the floor, aka bean bag chair. (Which by the way, was designed by three Italian friends in 1968 sharing ideas face to face and backed by the Italian design company Zanotta.)

Now let us look at this movie that nobody cared for or believed stood any chance of coming true. Below is the movie plot, does anything sound…???

Twenty years after the American people have been told that oil has run out and disease has scared them into complacency, the United States has become a fascist state. Amidst the resulting chaos and general panic, democracy collapsed, and a totalitarian cabal seized power. The new dictatorship outlawed private ownership and use of all automobiles, boats and aircraft, on the pretext that an even bigger crisis, the depletion of fossil fuel supplies, was imminent. The loss of other personal freedoms followed, and a mass surveillance system now monitors private citizens' every move.

A former race car driver named Franklyn Hart, (Lee Majors) now a puppet spokesman for public transportation, rebuilds his race car and sets off to California from Boston where people have returned to living life like they were twenty years prior.

Who would think that not just one, but all items in this movie have or are coming true. Not so much in the way the movie depicted, but nevertheless, in the way we are all too familiar with today. Well, except for the part about California leading the way back to freedom. The fact remains that California started down the wrong road when former Governors accepted "support" from a fuel company, shut down the state's last two nuclear plants and helped stop clean, safe, 4th generation Nuclear power plants as a transition to perhaps Hydrogen Fuel Cells running off of water to make clean energy on demand, such as the Fuel Cells on the Space Shuttles.

Our leaders then and now are NOT educating us and providing us with long term solutions. They are placing upon us the systems that make themselves the fastest and largest amount of money while securing their positions. End result, no long term solutions, more harm to the environment and a depletion of individual dignity. We the people are the solutions and we have to self educate ourselves with all the facts. We can start by not believing the lies being told through the process of omission.

Bill Lauto, at GoingTrueGreen.com
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An Event for Evening Attire set Environmental Queries and Conundrums Upon Me

2/22/2023

Many, many years ago, I attended an event that hosted a conference and award dinner for a Doctor of Sociology who conducted work associated between society and our concerns with our environment and energy needs. The specifics of any environmental issue was not discussed, the focus remained on the connections and challenges society faced toward each issue facing our environment and energy sources.

During the conference, conversation veered to referencing waste management and I contributed the following statement: “Our technology has advanced us so much that we have become very efficient in producing waste.”

I didn’t realize that my statement enticed the good Doctor to seek me out toward the end of the ceremonies. Everyone who contributed to the conversation earlier had to do a brief introduction about ourselves, so the Doctor knew who I was and my field of study.

He located me standing by my table, drink in one hand and the evening’s itinerary table card in my other hand.

The first question he hit me with was loaded and he was testing me. Would I lose my orientation in the depth of a question that had a conglomerate of issues behind the query? That was his test and my mind scrambled. I thank God for helping me with an answer that summarized every issue behind the question. The private conversation went this way:

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“So what does America have to do to be energy independent?”

I smiled, paused and then said, “Use our available current technology correctly.” I placed emphasis on the word, ‘correctly’.

His eyebrow raised and then with a smile he asked the test question on the opposite end of the spectrum. “What do you think of Biofuels?”

Without hesitating I answered, “I have a serious issue with using food for fuel as long as one child goes hungry in this world… because, there is always another way.”

Before I knew, twenty minutes went by as a crowd of people encircled us to listen in on our conversation. We at least touched upon the full gamut of our environmental, energy and sociological issues. We both agreed that the British philosopher William Godwin and the French mathematician, Marquis de Condorcet were correct with their theories and Thomas Robert Malthus, which was being touted by the media and the famous, has been proven wrong many times.

We ended our conversation with me congratulating him on his award and we wished each other the very best with our future work. That was a very good evening over-all.

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Harvest 2022

12/5/2022

This previous weekend, I joined the Three Village Historical Society, to take a candle light tour of historical homes near the area of the original small hamlet called Setauket on Long Island. This area is well known for operations conducted by George Washington’s spies, also know as the Secret Six.

One of the homes on the tour focussed on their barn, garden and a room built for home canning of fruits and veggies grown. What caught my eye was the chart published by Macy’s department store on growing a Victory Garden at home in order to help with World War One's food supplies.

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My garden doesn’t come close to any property that could support what is presented on the chart, I only have about 10 feet by 25 feet of space to grow food. Nevertheless, I do what I am capable of within my own budget of time, money and knowledge. This available space that I use is almost half my back yard property. I am thankful for that amount of ground and I have chosen to grow food because of the following reasons:

I can eat fresh amazing tasting food
I can share the same with family and friends
I can appreciate what is "needed" for a happy life, not what is “wanted"
I can enjoy the wonder shown on the faces of those who taste a carrot just harvested from the earth for the first time
I can watch the smile grow on a child after they enjoy the grape jam just made or the astonished look on my father when he says: "This is the most delicious tomato I ever had, and I have eaten many tomatoes over my 90 years of life!”
And the last reason is to be more humus, the Latin humus definition

I am sharing all this because I am not only thankful to God for what I harvest, but I want to also offer support to everyone else with a yard, windowsill, rooftop or empty field to do the same. Just imagine if we all used the space available to us to grow food how that would change the world. More organic food means less chemicals, more food for those in need and delicious amazing fresh meals made for those that come over to share a table and give thanks with us.

In total, for 2022, I harvested the following with the help of my small greenhouse and my own compost material that I used for nutrients:

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I also had blueberries, grapes, and the following herbs growing in cedar wood pots:
Basil, Cilantro, Parsley, Oregano and Mint.

Start small like I did so many years ago and slowly "grow" into the most you can grow. Each year is a new experience and the learning curve improves year after year. Changing the world as an individual with God's guidance is the only way our environment, our happiness and our future will be secured.

As for Christmas Trees, peruse my previous GoingTrueGreen blog to learn what is best, real trees or plastic fake trees.

Bill Lauto, at GoingTrueGreen.com
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Sneezing Outside The Box

10/7/2022

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Homemade Tissue Box

We all use them...
Tissues are very useful and because everyone uses tissues one time or many times in their lives, perhaps we should use some good old American ingenuity to improvise the way they are sold.

The image shown is a tissue box I made to cover the cardboard tissue box purchased in a store. I used left over pieces of wood from other projects and made a matching waste pail. Now while these actions avoided the purchase of new wood and a tissue box cover and pail made of plastic, the key word is plastic, I also was trapped in a whirlpool of thought involving redundancy.

The very wooden cover I made in the shape of a box, was covering a cardboard box. A cardboard box that may get recycled, tossed into the garbage or very rarely today, used to build a house for toys by turning the box inside out and drawing windows and doors upon the surface. When I was a kid, I did that all the time. Cereal boxes became castles, cookie boxes became Fire Departments for Matchbox cars and Refrigerator boxes became space ships. Sadly, are those days of creativity over?

Nevertheless, my wooden box and plastic box covers create redundancy. We do not need two boxes, so hopefully the manufacturing companies of tissues in boxes can take this suggestion to the bank. They can save production money while less cardboard is used or wasted. A lower manufacturing cost should mean lower prices for us the consumer! Additionally, all the cardboard being saved will help our environment.

The solution is easy... sell the tissues in a paper, not plastic, a paper bag as a refill in the boxes we already have at home. Perhaps even do an Introductory Offer by selling different sized decorative boxes for the bag of refill tissues. My parents had a nice metal tissue box cover from when they were married. That decorative metal tissue box cover lasted almost 50 years before the edges started to rust. When I saw the rust, I painted the box with a new color.

Tissues sold as refills and packaged in paper instead of cardboard will be more sustainable across-the-board. Reason being, paper gets recycled more than cardboard.

Bill Lauto, at GoingTrueGreen.com
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Al Borland and Rounded Curves

8/29/2022

Richard Karn who played the character Al Borland in the TV show Home Improvement saw and Liked our GoingTrueGreen blog called, MORE POWER. These two words happened to also be a widely used saying in the TV show, thus obtaining the attention of Mr. Karn.

The information was put out by our parent company, BBV Publishing and the image below captures the details, as well as our more power created by my solar system on my energy efficient house. No electric bill what so ever for over 7 years now. In fact, the utility pays me for the excess power I create. AND all done without any sacrifices, yes the AC is running all summer long. Note the smooth rounded curve in the image!

We are thankful and greatly appreciative to Mr. Karn for finding our blog noteworthy.

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Cherry tomato on left for size comparison

In other news from GoingTrueGreen that has Rounded Curves, I want to share this image of my own homegrown bumpy tomatoes! They don't have smooth rounded curves because this is what tomatoes really looked like originally!

The smooth rounded supermarket tomatoes are from the work done by Alexander Livingston in the 1860s where his hybrid tomato offered a more uniformly rounded fruit with more red color. Compared to the odd shape and bumpy original tomato, the groundbreaking work increased sales as the commodity was more pleasing to the eye.

However tomatoes were misunderstood many times:
- Fruit or Veggie? Tomatoes are fruit.
- They were believed to be poisonous in eighteenth century Europe because aristocracy ate off of pewter plates which had lead in them. The tomatoes acidity caused some of the lead toxin to leach out and some people died from lead poisoning.
- In the early 1900s, bigotry increased against Italian immigrants in New York City selling tomatoes on street carts, but the bill to label tomatoes poisonous and make them illegal to sell never came to be.

Nevertheless, along with the first pizza being created in Naples Italy, the rest is history or herstory. Either way, his story or her story, the fruit is delicious. Especially when grown in your own garden, with your own compost and picked fresh to eat that very same day.

Mangia! Mangia!

Bill Lauto, at GoingTrueGreen.com
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International Sustainability and Energy Consultant
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